We attacked and vassalized the Inca. We can't diplo-annex the Inca for 10 years, but that's how we want to finish them off because we have a mission that gives us a core on Huamanga if we diplo-annex them. 10 years pass and we diplo-annex them. At this point, I discover I hadn't been paying attention: the "Incapable Ruler" penalty is actually threefold, applying different penalties if ANY of your leader's skills are less than 7. What sadistic *!"&£!! thought this up??? Oh look. We got an appropriate new leader: [IMG]http://game-point.net/misc/eu3/chimu/7.png[/IMG] Wonder how we got him? I had to roll the dice quite a few times for that. The diplo-annex of Inca happens, and we don't get Incapable Ruler penalties now: [IMG]http://game-point.net/misc/eu3/chimu/8.png[/IMG] The long and short of it is: the only way to get anywhere as the Chimu is to get leaders with 7+ diplomacy, admin, and military - every time. In other words, impossible without cheating. Then, replace the Inca as the big nation in South America. So there we have it. February 1430 and we've basically replaced the Inca as the only power in South America, but we're totally stuck for a long time because we can't get a coastal CoT. Eventually the old CoT stagnated and died, and this happened: [IMG]http://game-point.net/misc/eu3/chimu/9.png[/IMG] By the coast again. We're gonna get a colonist. We use him to expand north to Guayaquil. Because it's next to the national focus, it expands quite quickly. The revolt risk is also low and dropping, although considering how centralized you have to go to get Westernized, the situation seems dire because it will eventually go up to a bare minimum of +4 across the country (+11 policy restriction, -3 stability, -3 tolerance, and -1 divination). Our tribal democracy government type is abysmal, and to switch to Noble Republic we need to get to government level 10 which is approximately 50 billion years away. [IMG]http://game-point.net/misc/eu3/chimu/10.png[/IMG] Guayaquil becomes self-sustaining with a population of about 1500. The natives never rose up against us. A couple of months later, we core on the first Inca province we captured, Cajamarca. Then Tumbes. The CoT in Chanchan is about to stagnate and disappear. I purposely demolish it early in the hope that it will appear in our newly-cored coastal province and... it does! This probably gives us another 10 years of 0.1 colonists/year: [IMG]http://game-point.net/misc/eu3/chimu/11.png[/IMG] I'm playing the game on max speed now, which I almost never do because it usually throws interesting stuff at you all the time. It was so not designed to be played as the native Americans. Quito is discovered to the north. We go for further colonization north with the 1 colonist we now have. Success. Set Quito as national focus and wait. Zzzzzzzz... [IMG]http://game-point.net/misc/eu3/chimu/12.png[/IMG] By 1458, it appears that the Maya and Zapotec have discovered us because we get alliance offers from both of them (which we accept), yet we still can't see any of their territory. Later, their capitals appear on the map when they war with each other, but that's it. Quito develops into a self-sustaining province, and shortly after, Cauca is discovered: [IMG]http://game-point.net/misc/eu3/chimu/13.png[/IMG] We colonize that with our 1 colonist and wait. In 1471, our centre of trade stagnates and disappears, and isn't replaced by another one because we now know about Mexico and trade through that. No more colonists. Although later for some reason, one does appear in Puno, an inland province. Even if I demolish it, it always comes back in Puno. We don't even have the tech to send merchants there. Most useless CoT ever. Cauca develops into a self-sustaining province and Choco is discovered to the north. Most of our provinces are now cored. However, we now have no prospect of expanding any further, no colonists, no tech, no conquistadors, no ships, and no neighbours. I played the game on for another 50 years until 1516. Nothing happened. You're just totally screwed. I mean I thought maybe some event would help out, or there would be [i]some[/i] way to expand, but nope. Apparently the native Americans were incapable of any exploration. Makes you wonder how they ever got to the Americas. Castille are the only European power colonizing, and they're colonizing South America. I'm going to stop playing now because unless you just cheat and Westernize through the console, they're going to land next to you and destroy you. Continuing the game feels like being on death row. Playing this game as Chimu has been the most boring and depressing game of EU3 I've ever done. I wouldn't recommend it. I don't think they should've even made the native Americans playable, to be honest. They are nerfed beyond all hope. The same would apply to the Inca by the way; they have the same government type and everything, we just replaced them as the hopeless nation of South America.